- Contents
- O'Malley's political interviews
- Padraig O'Malley
- Pre-Transition (1902-1989)
- Transition (1990 - 1994)
- Post-Transition (1994 - 1999)
- Transformation (1999-)
- General Information
- Mac Maharaj
- Glossary
- Anti-Apartheid Movement (AAM)
- Alliance (Tripartite Alliance)
- African National Congress (ANC)
- African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL)
- Azanian People'S Liberation Army (APLA)
- Afrikaner Volksfront (Afrikaner People's Front AVF)
- Afrikaner Resistance Movement (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging, AWB)
- Azanian People'S Organization (AZAPO)
- Afrikaner Broederbond (League of Afrikaner Brothers)
- Black Consciousness (BC)
- Black Local Authorities
- Constitutional Assembly (CA)
- Convention For A Democratic South Africa (CODESA)
- Congress Of South African Trade Unions (COSATU)
- Conservative Party (CP)
- Communist Party Of South Africa (CPSA)/ South African Communist Party (SACP)
- Camps In Exile (ANC)
- Coloured People'S Congress (CPC)
- Congress Alliance
- Congress Of Democrats (COD)
- Defiance Campaign
- Democratic Party (DP)
- Dutch Reformed Church (DRC)
- Freedom Charter
- Frontline States
- Herstigte Nasionale Party (Re-formed National Party, HNP)
- Homelands (Bantustans)
- Independent States
- Inkatha
- Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP)
- Kabwe
- Labour Party (LP)
- Liberal Party
- Mass Democratic Movement (MDM)
- Morogoro
- Multi-Party Nogotiating Forum (MPNF)
- Natal Indian Congress
- National Party (NP)
- National Union Of South African Students (NUSAS)
- Non-European Unty Movement (NEUM)
- Ossewa-Brandwag (Afrikaans, Oxwagon Sentinel) (OB)
- Pan Africanist Congress Of Azania (PAC)
- Passive Resistance
- POQO
- Progressive Federal Party (PFP)
- Progressive Party
- Reconstruction And Development Programme (RDP)
- RENAMO (National Resistance Movement Of Mozambique)
- Rivonia/ Rivonia Trial
- Robben Island
- Security Branch
- South African Congress Of Trade Unions (SACTU)
- South African Council Of Churches (SACC)
- South African Defence Force (SADF)
- South African Freedom Association (SAFA)
- South African Indian Congress (SAIC)
- South African Indian Council
- South African Party
- South African Police (SAP)
- South African Students' Organisation (SASO)
- Soweto Uprising
- State Security Council (SSC)
- South West African People'S Organisation (SWAPO)
- Transvaal Indian Congress (TIC)
- Tricameral Parliament
- Truth And Reconciliation Commission (TRC)
- Umkhonto Wesizwe (MK)
- Unionist Party
- UNITA (National Union For The Total Independence Of Angola)
- United Democratic Front (UDF)
- United Party (UP)
- ZANU (Zimbabwe African National Union)
- Biographies
- Abrahams, Archie
- Alexander, Ray
- Asmal, Kader
- Ayob, Ismail
- Barnard, Niel
- Bernstein, Hilda
- Bernstein, Lionel (Rusty)
- Beyleveld, Piet
- Biko, Steve
- Bizos, George
- Botha, Hentie
- Botha, P.W.
- Botha, R.F. 'Pik'
- Braam, Conny
- Brown, Manny
- Bunting, Brian
- Buthelezi, Mangosuthu
- Cajee, Amien
- Chetty, Manny
- Chiba, Laloo
- Chikane, Frank
- Coetsee, Kobie
- Curtis (Schoon), Jenny
- Dadoo, Dr Yusuf
- Danziger, Kurt
- De Klerk, Frederik Willem (F.W.)
- De Lange, Damian
- De Lange, J.P.
- Dingake, Michael
- Dlamini-Zuma, Dr Nkosazana
- Ebrahim, Ismail
- Edwards, Karl
- Erasmus, Gerrit
- Esterhuyse, Willie
- First, Ruth
- Fischer, Bram
- Gandhi, Mohandas Karamchand
- Gay, Lionel
- Goldberg, Denis
- Gordhan, Khetso
- Gordhan, Pravin
- Gqabi, Joe
- Gregory, James
- Gwala, Harry
- Hani, Chris
- Harmel, Michael
- Hefer, Judge Joost
- Holomisa, Bantu
- Jenkin, Tim
- Joffe, Joel
- Jordan, Pallo
- Joseph, Dasu
- Joseph, Paul
- Joseph, Peter
- Kasrils, Ronnie
- Kathrada, Ahmed
- Kitson, Dave
- Kriel, Hernus
- Kruger, Jimmy
- Kuneni, Prof. Mazizi (Raymond)
- Kuzwayo, Mandla Judson
- Lekota, Mosioua (Patrick)
- Love, Janet
- Mabhida, Moses
- Maduna, Penuell
- Makgothi, Henry (Squire)
- Malan, Magnus
- Malherbe, Dr E. G.
- Mandela, Nelson Rolihlahla
- Mandela, Winnie Madikizela
- Mangope, Lucas
- Manning, Claudia
- Maphosho, Florence
- Mapumulo, Shadrack
- Maqubela, Patrick
- Maree, Hannes
- Marks, J. B.
- Masondo, Andrew
- Matthews, John
- Mbeki, Govan
- Mbeki, Thabo
- Mcbride, Robert
- Mdlalose, Frank
- Meer , Ismail
- Meiring, General Georg
- Memela, Tootsie
- Meyer, Roelf
- Mhlaba, Raymond
- Mkhatshwa, Father Smangaliso
- Mkwayi, Wilton
- Mlambo-Ngcuka, Phumzile
- Mlangeni, Andrew
- Modise, Joe
- Mohammed, Yusuf & Maud
- Mokaba, Peter
- Momoniat, Ismail
- Moosa, Mohammed Valli
- Morobe, Murphy
- Motlanthe, Kgalema
- Motsabi, John
- Msimang, Mendi
- Mufamadi, Sydney
- Mvelase, Catherine
- Mxenge, Griffiths
- Naicker, Dr G. M. (Monty)
- Naicker, Marimuthu Pragalathan (M.P.)
- Naidoo, Indres
- Naidoo, Jayaseelan 'Jay'
- Naidoo, M.D.
- Naidoo, M.J.
- Naidoo, Steve (Nandha)
- Naidoo, Tim
- Nair, Billy
- Ndaba, Charles
- Ngcuka, Bulelani
- Nhlanhla, Joe
- Nieuwoudt, Gideon
- Nkadimeng, John
- Nkobi, Thomas
- Nokwe, Duma
- Nqakula, Charles
- Nyanda, Siphiwe
- Nzo, Alfred
- Omar, Dullah
- Pahad, Aziz
- Pahad, Essop
- Patel, Dipak
- Pillay, Ivan
- Pillay, Vella
- Press, Ronnie
- Rabkin, Sue
- Ramaphosa, Cyril
- Sankar, Anesh
- Schoon, Marius
- Schuitema, Barend
- Scott, Mpho
- Seedat, Dawood
- September, Reg
- Shaik, Mo
- Shaik, Schabir
- Shaik, Yunus
- Shope, Gertrude
- Singh, Debi
- Sisulu, Albertina
- Sisulu, Walter
- Sithole, Jabu
- Slovo, Joe
- Smit, Basie
- Swanepoel, Theunis ('Rooi Rus', Afrikaans) 'Red Russian'
- Tambo, Oliver
- Terre'Blanche, Eugene
- Thloome, Dan
- Tshabalala, Mbuso
- Tshabalala, Vuso
- Van Der Merwe, Fanie
- Van Der Merwe, General Johan
- Van Zyl Slabbert, Frederick
- Viljoen, Constand
- Vlok, Adriaan
- Vorster, B.J.
- Wessels, Leon
- Willemse, General
- Williamson, Craig
- Xulu, Maxwell
- Xuma, Dr A. B.
- Yacoob, Zak
- Zulu, Thami
- Zuma, Jacob
- Zwelithini, King Goodwill
- Mac Interviews
- 1993
- 1995
- 1997
- 1998
- 1999
- 2000
- 2001
- 2002
- 08 Jan 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 07 Mar 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Mar 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 13 Mar 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 22 Mar 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 28 Mar 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 02 Apr 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 08 Apr 2002: Maharaj, Mac*
- 09 May 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Aug 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 23 Aug 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 28 Aug 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 29 Aug 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 05 Sep 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 09 Sep 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 17 Sep 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 18 Sep 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 27 Sep 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 08 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 09 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 11 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 16 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 17 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 25 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 30 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 31 Oct 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 01 Nov 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 04 Nov 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 05 Nov 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 07 Nov 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 15 Nov 2002: Maharaj, Mac*
- 11 Dec 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Dec 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Dec 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 30 Dec 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 31 Dec 2002: Maharaj, Mac
- 2003
- 06 Jan 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 07 Jan 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 09 Jan 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 10 Jan 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 15 Jan 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 13 Mar 2003: Maharaj, Mac*
- 09 Jun 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 16 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 19 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 23 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 24 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 25 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 26 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac
- 29 Sep 2003: Maharaj, Mac*
- 2004
- 01 Apr 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 02 Apr 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 28 May 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 29 May 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 17 Jun 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 17-18 Jun 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 18-21 Jun 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 21 Jun 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 22 Jun 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 19 Aug 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 20 Aug 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 27 Aug 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 05 Sep 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 06 Sep 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 16 Sep 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 20 Sep 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 13 Oct 2004: Maharaj, Mac
- 2005
- 24 Apr 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 06 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 10 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 20-21-26 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac*
- 21 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 26 Jun 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 25 Sep 2005: Maharaj, Mac*
- 11 Oct 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 12 Oct 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 17 Oct 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 29 Dec 2005: Maharaj, Mac
- 2006
- Family
- Interviews
- Joey
- 2004: Interview
- Notes to her father
- Milou
- 2004: Interview
- Zarina
- 2003: Interviews
- 2004: Interviews
- 2005: Interviews
- Shanthee
- 2003: Interviews
- Joey
- Mac - Zarina's Correspondence
- Interviews
- Interviewees
- 1996
- 1998
- 1999
- 2000
- 2001
- 2002
- 25 Feb 2002: Pillay, Ivan
- 25 Feb 2002: Tshabalala, Vuso
- 26 Feb 2002: Meiring, Georg
- 26 Feb 2002: Van Der Merwe, Fanie
- 27 Feb 2002: Memela, Totsie
- 28 Feb 2002: Love, Janet
- 02 Mar 2002: Tshabalala, Vuso
- 15 Mar 2002: Love, Janet
- 15 Mar 2002: Moleketi, Jabu
- 11 Mar 2002: Davidson, Christo
- 13 Mar 2002: Chaskalson, Arthur
- 22 Mar 2002: Hutchings, Gillian
- 25 Mar 2002: Jenkin, Tim
- 29 Mar 2002: Pillay, Ivan
- 30 Mar 2002: Shubin, Vladimir
- 10 Apr 2002: Nair, Billy
- 04 May 2002: Sithole, Jabu
- 05 May 2002: Scott, Mpho
- 10 Sep 2002: Cajee, Amien
- 09 Oct 2002: Manning, Claudia
- 10 Oct 2002: Ayob, Ismail
- 14 Oct 2002: Naidoo, Indres
- 16 Oct 2002: Patel, Dipak
- 22 Oct 2002: Bunting, Brian
- 24 Oct 2002: Ayob, Ismail
- 04 Nov 2002: Kathrada, Ahmed
- 06 Nov 2002: Howard, Randall
- 09 Nov 2002: Joseph, Paul
- 11 Dec 2002: Ismail, Aboobaker (Rashid)
- 11 Dec 2002: Pillay, Ivan
- 12 Dec 2002: Momoniat, Ismail
- 30 Dec 2002: Pillay, Vella & Patsy
- 2003
- 03 Jan 2003: Mkwayi, Wilton
- 07 Jan 2003: Chiba, Laloo
- 08 Jan 2003: Joseph, Daso
- 16 Jan 2003: Ayob, Ismail
- 16 Jan 2003: Mkhatshwa, Smangaliso
- 19 Jan 2003: Spaarwater, Maritz
- 30 Jan 2003: Gordhan, Pravin
- 31 Jan 2003: Mahommed, Yusuf
- 21 Feb 2003: Ismail, Aboobaker (Rashid)
- 05 Apr 2003: Joffe, Joel
- 14 Apr 2003: Naidoo, Jay
- 16 Apr 2003: Dingake, Michael
- 10 Jun 2003: Kasrils, Ronnie
- 12 Jun 2003: Kasrils, Ronnie
- 16 Sep 2003: Weinberg, Sheila
- 19 Sep 2003: Masondo, Andrew
- 23 Oct 2003: Mvelase, Dipuo
- 26 Oct 2003: Naidoo, Phyllis
- 28 Nov 2003: Naidoo, Nandha (Steve)
- 08 Dec 2003: Bizos, George
- 14 Dec 2003: Seedat, Hassim
- 17 Dec 2003: Blomkamp, Peter
- 17 Dec 2003: Naidoo, Phyllis
- 2004
- 07 May 2004: Ayob, Ismail
- 07 May 2004: Shaik, Mo
- 17 May 2004 : Moosa, Valli
- 19 May 2004: Love, Janet
- 19 May 2004: Pillay, Ivan
- 20 May 2004: Reddy, Freddy
- 25 May 2004: Shaik, Mo & 'The Nightingale'
- 26 May 2004: Raadschelders, Lucia
- 28 May 2004: Shaik, Yunus
- 13 Jun 2004: Pillay, Ivan
- 13 Jun 2004: Trewhela, Paul
- 05 Jul 2004: Yacoob, Zak
- 19 Aug 2004: Ayob, Ismail
- 25 Aug 2004: Bernstein, Hilda
- 20 Sep 2004: Ramaphosa, Cyril
- 2005
- 22 Apr 2005: Maduna, Penuell
- 23 Apr 2005: Naidoo, Murthi
- 11 May 2005: Zuma, Jacob
- 12 May 2005: Van Der Merwe, Fanie
- 17 May 2005: Taylor, Jimmy
- 18 May 2005: Botha, Hentie
- 23 May 2005: Shaik, Yunis
- 23 Jun 2005: Badsha, Omar
- 26 Aug 2005: Shaik, Yunis
- 10 Oct 2005: Taylor, Jimmy
- 13 Oct 2005: Botha, Hentie
- 13 Oct 2005: Pillay, Ivan
- 14 Oct 2005: Love, Janet
- 14 Oct 2005: Davidson, Christo
- 15 Oct 2005: Shaik, Mo
- 17 Oct 2005: Van Der Merwe, Johan
- 18 Oct 2005: Ngcuka, Bulelani
- 2006
- Vula Communications
- Vula - Other
- Nyanda: Vula Report: 16 Oct 1989
- Slovo response to Nyanda Vula report
- Nyanda: Court transcript
- Vula Eight: Charge Sheet
- Tim Jenkin: Talking with Vula
- US State Department cables on Vula unraveling
- Mandela's statement on Vula, 22 June 1991
- Barrell Interviews
- Hilda Bernstein interview with Mac and Zarina
- BBC Interviews: December 2002
- Documents and Reports
- ANC
- 1963
- 1969
- 1971
- 1979
- 1985
- 1986
- 1987
- 1989
- 1990
- Natal - Violence: An Assessment of Forces
- Briefing Notes: Re Talks about Talks
- Report of the Working Group Established under Paragraph Three of The Pretoria Minute
- IPC underground document
- Political Report for Presentation to Joint NEC/ILC Meeting
- ANC/ILC Meeting - 20 June 1990
- Consultative Office Meeting - 11 October
- Report on the ANC National Consultative Conference
- ANC National Consultative Conference: resolutions for the coming year December 1990
- 1991
- ANC NEC
- 1971
- 1987
- 1988
- 1989
- 1990
- 1991
- ANC NWC
- 1986
- 1987
- 1988
- 1989
- 1990
- 1992
- SACP
- Alliance documents 2006
- Hefer Commission
- RS 452: Reconstructed Intelligence file
- ETV News Special Report, 16 Sept. 2003
- Moe Shaik time line submission
- Mac Maharaj's time line submission
- Mac's closing statement
- Report of the Hefer Commission
- Extract from cross examination of Bulelani Ngcuka by Joseph Francis
- Questions for President Thabo Mbeki
- ANC Today 23 January 2004
- Affidavit from Vusi Mona
- Little Rivonia
- Security files
- Robben Island: prerelease assessment
- Karl Edwards [NIS]: The Internal Reconstruction and Development Department (sic)
- Karl Edwards: [NIS] "Personality, Appearance and Political Outlook"
- Karl Edwards: An Operational Analysis of ANC/CP
- Karl Edwards: Strategy and Tactics of ANC/CP
- Karl Edwards: [NIS] In Depth Analysis of NIC with emphasis on ANC/ CP links
- Jacob Zuma
- Other
- "Winds of Change"
- Reddy: the anti apartheid movement - 1959 -1979
- Gurney: The origins of the anti apartheid movement
- Giap: People's War
- Barrell interviews
- Anderson, Bill
- Bunting, Brian
- Cronin, Jeremy [First Interview]
- Cronin, Jeremy [Second Interview]
- Cronin, Gemma
- Evans, Gavin
- Goldberg, Dennis
- Jele, Joe [Notes]
- Jordan, Pallo [First Interview]
- Jordan, Pallo [Second Interview: Notes]
- Kasrils, Ronnie [First Interview]
- Kasrils, Ronnie [Second Interview]
- Kasrils, Ronnie [Third Interview]
- Kasrils, Ronnie [Four Brief Interviews: Notes]
- Kodesh, Wolfie
- Martins, Dikobe
- Matshakiza, Sizwe
- Mayibuye, Peter [Joel Netshitenze]
- Molefe, Popo
- Momoniat, Ismail
- Narsoo, Monty
- Report of the commission on the cabal
- Report from the underground 1990
- Anonymous report from ANC underground
- Memorandum (unsigned) to "the Chief" 12 June 1990
- Information Update (1991)
- Remarks by Nelson Mandela in Cape Town on 11 February 11, 1990 after his release from Victor Verster
- Mathabatha Peter Sexwale: letter of resignation from ANC
- Van Zyl Slabbert Commission on Electoral Reform
- Interim constitution: chapter 16
- Ngcakani: report on email fraud
- The Foundational Study: African Leadership
- Afro Barometer 15 June 2006
- Passports
- ANC
- Endnotes
- Chapter 10/[] 34/ extended note
- Chapter 12/[] 3/ extended note
- Chapter 12/[] 44/ extended note
- Chapter 15/[] 10/ extended note
- Chapter 15/[] 33, 34, 35 & 36/ extended note
- Chapter 16/[] 3/ extended note
- Chapter 16/[] 4/ extended note
- Chapter 20/[] 17/ extended note
- Chapter 20/[] 51/ extended note
- Chapter 20/[] 52/ extended note
- Chapter 20/[] 55/ extended note
- Chapter 20/[] 56/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 7/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 13/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 16/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 17/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 36/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 42/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 44/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 45/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 46/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 47/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 49/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 50/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 51/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 52/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 53/ extended note
- Corruption/incompetence
- Business interests of elected officials
- 'Caught with their hands in the cookie jar
- Cronyism
- From briefing by Minister Zola Skewyiya on basic income grant
- Oilgate
- 'South Africa: Another Great Year for the Corrupt?'
- Political party funding
- The rot must stop
- Transparency International
- Travelgate 1
- Travelgate 2
- Welfare Fraud
- Corruption/incompetence
- Chapter 22/[] 55/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 58/ extended note
- Mbeki & AIDS
- Address by President Thabo Mbeki at the Inaugural ZK Matthews Memorial Lecture
- Interview with President Thabo Mbeki
- Letter by President Mbeki
- Mbeki letter to Manto
- Mbeki says CIA had role in HIV/AIDS conspiracy
- Mbeki stirs up Aids controversy
- The Face of Aids
- South Africa's broken HIV promises
- Speech at the Opening of the 13th International AIDS Conference
- Statements by South African President Thabo Mbeki on the subject of HIV/Aids
- South Africa'S Top Twelve Aids Dissidents
- Heywood article
- Mbali Article
- Nattrass article
- Sitze Article Denialism
- HIV/AIDS The Mbeki controversy
- AIDS & the ANC: Heart, soul & health
- Mbeki & AIDS
- Chapter 22/[] 59/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 61/ extended note
- Dr. Manto Tshabalala -Msiamang & HIV/AIDS
- Aids experts condemn SA minister
- Angry exchanges at SA Aids case
- Manto again angers Aids activists
- Manto and Rath hold pow-wow
- Manto defends Aids policies, blames media
- Manto defends Aids policies
- Manto loves Rath
- Manto's Aids exhibit 'despicable'
- Manto's Aids stance 'fatal'
- Rath making fool of Manto - DA
- 'Stick to traditional medicine'
- TAC takes Manto, Rath to court
- Dazed and confused
- Dr. Manto Tshabalala -Msiamang & HIV/AIDS
- Chapter 22/[] 62/ extended note
- HSRC study on HIV/AIDS
- Chapter 22/[] 63/ extended note
- Chapter 22/[] 64/ extended note
- Footnotes
- Glossary
This resource is hosted by the Nelson Mandela Foundation, but was compiled and authored by Padraig O’Malley. It is the product of almost two decades of research and includes analyses, chronologies, historical documents, and interviews from the apartheid and post-apartheid eras.
Questions for President Thabo Mbeki
Questions for the Hon. President Thabo Mbeki regarding his meeting with Mac Maharaj on 23 rd August 2003
Ø. Mac Maharaj says he rang you circa 22nd August, that he said he wanted to discuss something with you, that you did not inquire as to what the matter might be about, and that he suggested that you see him at him home in Pretoria on Saturday 23rd at 2.00 pm.
Ø. That he met with you, that he said words to the effect that "I have not come here about my personal problem. I have come because I do not understand the conduct of the Scorpions, the abuse of power that is going on." That he handed you Mo Shaik's reconstructed file on Bulelani Ngcuka, then Director of the NPA, with the documentation from which Mo Shaik's Operation Bible unit in South Africa had reached the conclusion in 19988/89 that Ngcuka was "most probably" an apartheid spy.
Ø. Maharaj says you looked through the file, handed it back to him and asked him what he (Maharaj) thought ought to be done.
Ø. Maharaj says that he suggested that you might perhaps set up a small committee comprised of members of the NIA and other intelligence services and might consider making Mo Shaik part of that team to search the archives and produce a fully evaluated report on the matter.
Ø. That you responded, "Good, I'll think about it."
Ø. Maharaj also says that he told you that he had heard rumors that Penuell Maduna, the Minister of Justice & Bulelani Ngcuka were going to hold a press conference that day to say that the NPA had a prima facie case on corruption against the then Deputy President, Jacob Zuma, but that the NPA would not prosecute because it was not a winnable case
Ø. And that you responded with words to the effect: "Is that so?"
Ø. Maharaj says that he and you parted "on the basis that if there was anything new I (Maharaj) would tell him, that we should keep an open mind."
Ø. Maharaj further says that when he got into his car at approx 3.00 pm he turned on Radio 702 radio, which was carrying the press conference he had alluded to; that he immediately rang you back to inform you but that your switchboard said that you were unavailable. That he left a message asking you to call him back at your convenience.
Ø. That you called him back at approx 4.00 pm, that he told you that the press conference had taken place & that you replied with word o the effect: "Oh, is that so. Thanks for telling me. I'm going to make sure that I immediately get a transcript."